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Adonis
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 9:16 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

ab from class lvls doesnt stack with other buffs like aid/bless when applied before or after.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 10:20 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Adonis wrote:
ab from class lvls doesnt stack with other buffs like aid/bless when applied before or after.


Show me a specific, detailed example. Also are you sure you're not reaching the +20 ab limit?

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Adonis
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 10:21 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

hobbes3k wrote:
Adonis wrote:
ab from class lvls doesnt stack with other buffs like aid/bless when applied before or after.


Show me a specific, detailed example. Also are you sure you're not reaching the +20 ab limit?


im very sure im not capped -.- the example would be assassin class in my case, maybe others.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:55 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

same here my lvl 30 maxed out wm gets 66 ab.

further the Disc bonus does not show up on the caracter

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 12:37 am Reply with quoteBack to top

2 points:

1) (incase adonis is hardcore nub which he isnt), added AB doesnt show on char sheet properly.

2) It can have something to do with the order you buff in.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 12:41 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Morgoth wrote:
2 points:

1) (incase adonis is hardcore nub which he isnt), added AB doesnt show on char sheet properly.

2) It can have something to do with the order you buff in.


With PF it was a combination of these. More or less ab would show up on the sheet depending on what order you buffed in. Didn't affect actual ab either way though.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 12:51 am Reply with quoteBack to top

The only problem/bug I am certain is WM not getting discipline bonus.

I am aware of this and I already fixed it for next update.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 3:13 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I have double checked.....rolls don't show ab and I tried various orders to the buffs. As well it doesnt stack with prayer or bardsong ab.

And while I've got your attention wtf is the prereq for ESF UMD now? I couldn't find any feat req modification anywhere and when reaching the default my character could not select the feat. -.-
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 4:56 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Adonis wrote:
I have double checked.....rolls don't show ab and I tried various orders to the buffs. As well it doesnt stack with prayer or bardsong ab.

And while I've got your attention wtf is the prereq for ESF UMD now? I couldn't find any feat req modification anywhere and when reaching the default my character could not select the feat. -.-


if youre talking about assassin ESF bonusfeat.... its only for hide and ms
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 5:12 am Reply with quoteBack to top

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ESF UMD now
there is no prereq for ESF nub.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 8:02 am Reply with quoteBack to top

ezramun wrote:
Adonis wrote:
I have double checked.....rolls don't show ab and I tried various orders to the buffs. As well it doesnt stack with prayer or bardsong ab.

And while I've got your attention wtf is the prereq for ESF UMD now? I couldn't find any feat req modification anywhere and when reaching the default my character could not select the feat. -.-


if youre talking about assassin ESF bonusfeat.... its only for hide and ms


not bonus feat -.- regular scheduled feat
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 8:03 am Reply with quoteBack to top

coldvoid wrote:
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ESF UMD now
there is no prereq for ESF nub.


21lvl 20ranks in chosen skill dumb@$$
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 11:45 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Adonis wrote:
hobbes3k wrote:
Adonis wrote:
ab from class lvls doesnt stack with other buffs like aid/bless when applied before or after.


Show me a specific, detailed example. Also are you sure you're not reaching the +20 ab limit?


im very sure im not capped -.- the example would be assassin class in my case, maybe others.


C'mon give me more detail so I can try to replicate the bug. Give me your build (class levels), normal ab/ac (before buffs and token), what +ab buffs you used before Token (ie Aid, Prayer, Bless, etc.), and what order you buffed.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 7:38 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

My circumstance was around lvl 18assassin but after reaching 26lvls asassin it applies correctly if applied before any other buffs. The token ab will show on sheet and all other ab will not but it stacks now at least with 26 assassin lvls.

Now what in the hell was changed to ESF UMD requirements -.-
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 9:02 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Adonis wrote:
My circumstance was around lvl 18assassin but after reaching 26lvls asassin it applies correctly if applied before any other buffs. The token ab will show on sheet and all other ab will not but it stacks now at least with 26 assassin lvls.

Now what in the hell was changed to ESF UMD requirements -.-


Most likely you're trying to take ESF UMD as a bonus feat with a class where you can't. Nubby.

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