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bhaal
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 8:10 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Why in the hell hasn't nekro staff been nerfed yet?!? All these farmers must have gotten huge erections when they examined it, and were too fixated to push for a downgrade.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 9:04 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Why nerf it? Like morg said.. it doesn't add dmg, just changes it to a block dmg type with NEP, and sure, the extra skills are nice, but it's a boss weapon, you'd EXPECT it to be slightly better.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 9:10 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Eliar wrote:
bhaal wrote:
Ya, pures shouldn't be dealing the damage. They should be disabling and countering.


Hahahahaha... no.

You can make damage dealing pures.

You can make disabling pures.

You can make a hybrid and have them be less good at each.

As for countering, thats what HP sorcs are for.


Yup HP sorc countering a pure wiz in team battle = gg.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 10:13 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Not that hard to stop someone from countering you, but this topic is about flame arrow so...

Pure bonuses are designed to empower casters. Boss weps are designed to empower melees. Nekro staff is like a double empowerment to mages, or more specifically, mages that use flame arrow.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 10:57 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

bhaal wrote:
Pure bonuses are designed to empower casters. Boss weps are designed to empower melees.


Double fail.

Pure bonuses weren't put in to empower casters, and boss weaps weren't designed to empower meleers.

Casters were plenty strong earlier. Pure bonuses were put in to increase variety among casters. And it worked. Pure mages and HP sorcs are still just as strong as each other. In many ways, pure casters are slightly less useful than hp sorcs.

Boss weaps were likewise implemented to increase variety, which it does.

Bottom line, Bhaal: You're wrong.. twice.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 11:14 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

potatoe, potatoe.....

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Oh... I know where the problem is....
The problem is that you were made a dev ... Solve that and all will be fine

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So, think happy thoughts and smack the crap out of it... this concept applies to children and the mentally ill too.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 1:57 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Eliar wrote:


Pure bonuses weren't put in to empower casters


I sure wouldn't play em if they weren't stronger than normal casters



Eliar wrote:


Boss weaps were likewise implemented to increase variety, which it does.



If you had to choose between an otto and a greatsword, wouldn't you choose otto? The wep seems fairly empowering to me. More ab = more floored opponents.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 2:26 am Reply with quoteBack to top

bhaal wrote:
Eliar wrote:


Pure bonuses weren't put in to empower casters


I sure wouldn't play em if they weren't stronger than normal casters



Eliar wrote:


Boss weaps were likewise implemented to increase variety, which it does.



If you had to choose between an otto and a greatsword, wouldn't you choose otto? The wep seems fairly empowering to me. More ab = more floored opponents.


Pure mages and hp sorcs are good at different things..

Pure mages pack the damage and the disable.. non-pure mages are everything else.. a pure mage cant touch an hp sorc when it comes to dispelling and countering.

And otto vs. greatsword is a bad example.. scythe vs. otto is a much better example.

If I had a scythe with the same damages as an otto, I would use the scythe, no doubt about it.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 11:22 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Seize T. wrote:
potatoe, potatoe.....


potato*

you are a true legion,like articas..

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 12:37 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

woopty-do, kuba.

Post more.

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hobbes3k wrote:
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The problem is that you were made a dev ... Solve that and all will be fine

Pandora wrote:
So, think happy thoughts and smack the crap out of it... this concept applies to children and the mentally ill too.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 12:56 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Oh I posted whacha gonna do son? hahaha!!
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 2:50 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Post more.

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hobbes3k wrote:
Oh... I know where the problem is....
The problem is that you were made a dev ... Solve that and all will be fine

Pandora wrote:
So, think happy thoughts and smack the crap out of it... this concept applies to children and the mentally ill too.
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coldvoid
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 2:55 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Sieze usually I ignore the fact that you exist on this planet but your annoying me by spamming a topic in which I am interested.

Can we get back to the facts here? Necro staff doesn't increase damage people! It just changes the TYPE of damage!

No one is crying about the 45 pairs of Slaad gloves DV has (which btw all have the same stats) get over it yes <C> knows how to farm Nekrosis and you don't. This is a simple case of player hating. Please call out the WHAAAAMBULANCE and collect al the tears form this topic.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 3:08 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

coldvoid wrote:


No one is crying about the 45 pairs of Slaad gloves DV has (which btw all have the same stats)


DV doesn't dupe. Not to mention slaad gloves aren't going to do 700 + damage in one round.

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coldvoid
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 3:12 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

First of all you don't know that.
Second of all Nekro staff doesn't do 700 in one round.
Learn to read it just changes the damge type.
Third of all since when did you come back to DEX and play for DV?
Thought you quit for good.
Finally, you know I always know what I am talking about. Get a staff and do the testing.

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