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Poll :: What duration should CoT wrath have?

current duration of 1*cha mod is fine
14%
 14%  [ 6 ]
2*cha mod is better
34%
 34%  [ 14 ]
cha mod+CoT lvl is best
43%
 43%  [ 18 ]
dont care but want to see results
7%
 7%  [ 3 ]
Total Votes : 41


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Seed
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 9:37 am Reply with quoteBack to top

yes CHA+COT Levels is too much. There is no need to "build" for it with that Formula. Basing it solely on CHA is much better because then you can't just ignore the main stat of COT and get a sweet bonus. You should have to sacrifice something to get a longer duration.

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Mike20
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 12:04 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Most CoTs will get 3 uses of wrath that last as long as Divine shield FFS, why not take CHA modifer+Half of Cot levels? (everyone always make equal CoT levels for bonus feats Razz and if not say its 21 round it to 20 and so it would be 10 rounds+Cha modifer= X+10round=total rounds it is up) ^^
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linuXjedi
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 12:38 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Mike20 wrote:
Most CoTs will get 3 uses of wrath that last as long as Divine shield FFS, why not take CHA modifer+Half of Cot levels? (everyone always make equal CoT levels for bonus feats Razz and if not say its 21 round it to 20 and so it would be 10 rounds+Cha modifer= X+10round=total rounds it is up) ^^


Seed stated very clearly why that's not a good idea. You're just dividing it in half but people would still be able to get wrath for 15 rounds 3 times a day without having cha. Cot is a strong class as it is without wrath. If you want wrath you'll need cha, end of story. Twisted Evil

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 2:08 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

FFS I made an argument and it was deleted wtf. I can't remember what I argued so I can re-post it Sad
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Mike20
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 3:51 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Now I remember- Jedi, Not many make 30 CoT, Why would they? Want to loose ac over it? and ab? So really the 15 rounds without CHA is total BS, Most make 10-14 CoT in which they will get usually 5-7 rounds with no CHA, some do make 20 CoT (10 rounds uh oh) but some add CHA so CHA modifier +half of CoT levels would be nice acually, You sacrificed AC or ab for it so why not get what you deserve? + it's like a +7 ab which isn't a huge amount if you based on it....
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ezramun
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 4:25 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

mike you left and wont play a CoT anymore anyway, soooo....... kthxbye
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Mike20
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 1:10 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Who said I'm not going to reinstall ? EVER? Then I'll start playing a CoT build since they are getting empowered, maybe like a 15pali/10CoT/15monk ^^
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Fendal
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 7:08 am Reply with quoteBack to top

cha CoT lvls too much....with 3 uses cha mod is enough...2x cha mod would be ok
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WULF
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:48 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Whatever is wins, somehow the duration needs to be increased. As it is, if a COT casts wrath, just run around for a few seconds and it will wear off.
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solmyrian
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 4:25 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

cot duration is fine as it is and i play a cot with only 16 cha buffed.
5 ab 5 div dmg and 5 saves is too much to be empowered.
10 cot also gets 5 saves,5 bonus feats and full bab.
Does a 60 dc stunning fister w mid 60s ab sound fine?
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linuXjedi
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 6:39 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

solmyrian wrote:
cot duration is fine as it is and i play a cot with only 16 cha buffed.
5 ab 5 div dmg and 5 saves is too much to be empowered.
10 cot also gets 5 saves,5 bonus feats and full bab.
Does a 60 dc stunning fister w mid 60s ab sound fine?


You forgot to mention that you're using true strike to get your mid 60s ab.

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what have u achieved? lol!!!!

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nick2272
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:15 am Reply with quoteBack to top

64 ab cot monk with a 51 dc, no ts ^^. thats self buffed

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linuXjedi
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 4:25 am Reply with quoteBack to top

nick2272 wrote:
64 ab cot monk with a 51 dc, no ts ^^. thats self buffed


The difference is a 51 dc. And it might as well be 20 if it's 51. But then again - there are nubcakes running around praries with less than 49 fort.

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what have u achieved? lol!!!!

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ExDefiant
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 11:43 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Problem with stunners, is that, thats what they are based on, I never enjoyed playing one. Remember : stun is based on fort.

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nick2272
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:00 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

stun spam wrks fine, its like dev just hope for low rolls

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