Boss poll

Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 12:53 am

In the future, a new boss system will be implemented, DEX will have about 15 bosses dropping a set of weapons mostly designed by yours truly.

The plan initially involved replacing the bosses and such with new ones, thus me making a new greataxe drop for example, replacing otto.
Also Dopkalfar wep racks will be removed if I can get that put though

Now I understand, this creates a problem, so many players on dex (including myself) spend a long time farming for weapons by choice, no essential for pvp, but farming is an alternative to lvling.

What I want to ask, is a big question,
Mainly because seraph wants current weps replaced due to complaints of current boss weps being a little too uber (I tend to disagree on a part)

DO DEX PLAYERS WANT BOSSES REPLACED (MAY MEAN LOSING FARMED WEPS)?
OR
DO PLAYERS WANT NEW BOSSES IN ADDITION TO EXISTING BOSSES?

I think this should decide.... You are the players, and I want you to tell me what you want , (as opposed to the arres way)

Above Average Gender: Age: 26 Joined: 21 Jan 2007

Get rid of dopk drops. Bosses are nice alternative and all but I would much rather see a pvp type system for points as mentioned in another thread as an alternative to farming. A pvp mod in the action section should not mean hours upon hours of farming to stay at the same equipment lvl as everyone else.

Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 2:24 am

As far as I know, I only design the weapons, not how they are implemented into the mod..

could be different to a traditional farming system

Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 3:11 am

Voted: Start Over With Fresh System (involving loss of farmed weps).

I simply think it would be easier to balance the weapons if we make everything thing from scratch and don't have to consider what is already there.

Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 3:27 am

the way I am making these weapons is similar in specs to current drops, but have an edge of some kind over anything you can create with stones/rods.

New drops will come with full specs on them so no modding is needed and they will be unmodifiable, thus i feel that i would like to leave current weps on, but remove the boss from mod an replace it with identical weapon but fully finished.

Example.

Otto:
+6
2d10 magic
2d6 posi

New one will be
+6,
2d10 magic
2d8 posi
keen
2d6 massive crits
vamp regen +6
+4 disc.

catch my drift?

Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 3:58 am

ahh... if everything works like that and there is a way around the dopk "problem" then change my vote to "Keep Existing Bosses and Drops, and add to it." Smile

Above Average Gender: Age: 35 Joined: 30 Jan 2006

All I have to say is 1) you're an idiot for thinking that this vote could go either way. 2) you're an even bigger idiot for even taking this survey. 3) We don't want you

with out looted boss drops. Go

someone else's poop on another server and leave this one the

alone. You break stuff without fixing it and yet you focus on

more poop up. This poll should not even be here and if you think it should -- you're a danger to dex's already low numbers and have no notion of your own about what the players want. We want you to stop

stuff up is what we want. Stop breaking stuff and making ridiculus changes that noob servers like badlands wouldn't even make.

You want new boss weapons? Then add them and leave our stuff the

alone and if you really have to take a poll to know that that's what we want then please do everyone a favor and go

some other mod up.

Above Average Gender: Age: 35 Joined: 30 Jan 2006

I'd like to see a dwarven waraxe, bastard sword/katana and/or longsword drop. These are rarely used weapons - and for good reason. Depending on what you put on them - I still doubt they'll be highly used. Waraxe is iffy though. It wouldn't take a lot to convince me to use one.

Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 5:37 am

linuXjedi wrote:

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Are you quite right in the head?

I have a good idea of what players want, I'm posting this to avoid an Arres-like Lynching, I'm sure dex players would rather it this way.

secondly I havent changed a damned thing, what are you on about? I'm not a dev, I'm making boss weapons, wtf is your damage linux, get out of my thread.

you want to know why the option of removing current weapons was said? Because seraph said thats what he decided on, I said I dont agree, and I came up with an alternative.... Now who looks like a twig linux <3

Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 6:13 am

correction...i never said to remove them. I can use the stripper to give all current weaps in the game the new stats. I think i figured out how. I said that if worst came to worst that might be required. But either the weaps in there now would have different stats then you currently see. Morg one suggestion would be leave it open for them to decide on there second dmg type through stones. So only give either 1 or the other dmg type.

linuxjedi 1) This isnt something i want...im doing it because people asked me to do revisions to boss system and bring more bosses in 2) did i make this survey...no 3) If people dont want different weaps then why would they

about how they are unbalanced and that something needs to be done

I fix stuff. Hence the million polls ive made. Not every single person is going to agree with what is decided upon. But i am sorry for the confusion. For a long time i didnt think the stripper idea would work but i do believe it will now so there should be no problem with changing the stats on the boss drop weaps that are there and then use the stripper to legalize everyones weaps accordingly.

Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 7:44 am

There is another issue imo:
Do people that farm dop weapons like the fact that they are random? Human beings enjoy gambling naturally and dop is a sort of gambling if you think about it, you never know what you're gonna get, i personally don't find it too amuzing to farm, unless there is nothing else to do or the areas are challenging aka shadow plane at the beggining(it was a somewhat "mystical" place so to say, exploring it was great, at least for me). Anyways, a poll about weapons having random properties or not should be done imo. Same thing with other gear, i don't know if its still there but the chests behind the SD dop boss sometimes dropped items with random properties, some years ago i got a helm with +4/5 perform AND a stat bonus.

Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 9:55 am

Sorry for the misinterpretation seraph, no harm meant.

Your idea will work perfectly if it can be done.

I have about 7 weapons made in a module, I can make them so they have room for dmg from stones., starting wiht a rare dmg on rarer weapons and maybe ele dmg on a more common one.

Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 11:20 am

Ok im going to try and compromise casas. What if they had varying combinations of dmg and on hit or random combinations of just dmg (they would still have room to add a final dmg bonus). I dont want to make them completely random personally.

If that is ok let me know please.

Morg thank you so much for designing these weaps i am working on the encounter code and stuff on the side. Catch me on msn later.

DO THE CURRENT BOSS DROP WEAPS HAVE A STAT RANDOMIZER ON THEM AS IN ARE THEY ALWAYS THE SAME OR DO THE STATS CHANGE

_seraphim_

Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 11:30 am

SeraphimDeX1DEV wrote:

DO THE CURRENT BOSS DROP WEAPS HAVE A STAT RANDOMIZER ON THEM AS IN ARE THEY ALWAYS THE SAME OR DO THE STATS CHANGE

the dmgs change

Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 11:36 am

the rest of the stats are set then?