Class Token PvP balance

I ain't no Newbie Gender: Age: 21 Joined: 06 Oct 2006

Discuss any PvP balance issue with Class Token please. Thanks.

Average Gender: Age: 17 Joined: 24 Dec 2005

WM don't need a bonus to AC, Fort, and Disc.

Maybe keep two (AC and Fort for instance)

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 12:38 am

WM does indeed need the bonus.

Class token should have perma duration. Could help prevent problems with ac/ab (etc) stacking. It will also make it more useful to a variety of builds... DD hp is alrdy perm anyway.

RDD still either needs no bonus, or a much greater bonus. Make it start at lvl 16 RDD plz.

Some of the other classes could use some help...right now i thnk only DD and WM are fairly perfect (if the tokens are working as per described in the journal). Maybe I'll comment further later...

I ain't no Newbie Gender: Age: 21 Joined: 06 Oct 2006

I don't agree with perm duration. If we make token prem duration let's make Bless, Aid, Prayer, Mantle, SR, etc. all perm duration too.

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 5:19 am

hobbes3k wrote:

I don't agree with perm duration. If we make token prem duration let's make Bless, Aid, Prayer, Mantle, SR, etc. all perm duration too.

Im down with that...

Post Master Gender: Age: 18 Joined: 24 Dec 2005

class token is so buggy its should be made perma imo

I ain't no Newbie Gender: Age: 21 Joined: 06 Oct 2006

Pokesi wrote:

class token is so buggy its should be made perma imo

how is it buggy?

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 7:31 am

I agree it should be permanent builds with high class token bonuses generally need to keep them on to compete with other non class token builds.

Lord of the Posts Gender: Age: 19 Joined: 21 Apr 2007

The class tokens should be permanent buffs since it's actually part of the build and not spell buffs.

Above Average Gender: Age: 26 Joined: 21 Jan 2007

Pandora wrote:

The class tokens should be permanent buffs since it's actually part of the build and not spell buffs.

this although some of them need adjustments. I actually like the class tokens for the variety of builds that can be made viable but they should be limited to the least used classes.

Squire Gender: Age: 21 Joined: 21 Dec 2005

I defend WM boosts by simply stating that it takes 6 feats and 4ranks in intimidate just to take the class so please give a reason that it shouldnt get these beautiful increases

I am such a moma's weapon master

Harmless Gender: Joined: 30 Aug 2006

all class token does is give builds that have no right to be made bonuses. Remove it, we have monk dds runnin around with 85 ac and 63 ab.... self buffed. Ridiculous.

Below Average Joined: 19 Dec 2005 Location: Peikkometsä

SimKiller9000 wrote:

all class token does is give builds that have no right to be made bonuses. Remove it, we have monk dds runnin around with 85 ac and 63 ab.... self buffed. Ridiculous.

6 monk speed?
and whit kama? where is dmg? id gues you can kill loft zombies whit it if they stay still loong enough

Average Age: 26 Joined: 19 Feb 2006

Ranger
Gear doesnt work for the 5th time, ranger track doesnt give uncanny and the pure ranger boots dont give hips, doesnt show up in log, or feats section

DD
1. elemental resistance and ab/ac gets removed with restore
2. hp doesnt get reapplied when class token wears off. so first time use is all u get til u rest

Asn
Same gear doesnt work at all no imp evasion at 30 with gear

Rdd
sux and still unused unless you are counting the 1ab 21mnk 3bard 16rdds are running around with

Bg
work fine since u dont need any gear or added hp,

SD
idk havent made

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 4:56 pm

Do you have a log with the ammount of chars created that use class tokens? Knowing which ones are being used the most might give you an idea of what needs balancing too.