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coldvoid
Devil's Advocate

Gender:  Age: 38
Joined: 21 Dec 2005
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Sun Mar 23, 2008 7:29 am |
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I have a dex tank. |
_________________ We are a Chaotic Neutral based alignment and although our namesake description is true balance we have a "gut" feeling of how we should maintain this balance.
Is our gut feeling a true neutral balance?
NO it is not.
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Colossus-X
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Gender:  Age: 25
Joined: 13 Jun 2007
Location: Manila, Philippines
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Sun Mar 23, 2008 2:17 pm |
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bhaal
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Gender:  Age: 78
Joined: 29 Dec 2005
Location: US
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Mon Mar 24, 2008 1:53 pm |
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Anyway you can balance out these class tokens so you can make their duration unlimited? Maybe even a static 5 mins or so. Also, they should be undispellable. |
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Barry Scott
*The* Cillit Bang man!

Gender:  Age: 20
Joined: 22 Apr 2006
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Mon Mar 24, 2008 2:27 pm |
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Cool to have Arres on board (Y). |
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hobbes3k
I ain't no Newbie

Gender:  Age: 21
Joined: 06 Oct 2006
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Mon Mar 24, 2008 11:30 pm |
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| bhaal wrote: | | Anyway you can balance out these class tokens so you can make their duration unlimited? Maybe even a static 5 mins or so. Also, they should be undispellable. |
They work like PF buffs: undispellable, and they last in rounds total to character level. |
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bhaal
Below Average

Gender:  Age: 78
Joined: 29 Dec 2005
Location: US
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Tue Mar 25, 2008 11:25 am |
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SeraphimDeX1DEV
Undisputed Ruler of the Universe

Age: 20
Joined: 14 Feb 2008
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Tue Mar 25, 2008 11:32 am |
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he meant class level. And if im not mistaken most bonuses start at 14 lvls for a given class. |
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hobbes3k
I ain't no Newbie

Gender:  Age: 21
Joined: 06 Oct 2006
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Tue Mar 25, 2008 11:44 am |
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No I meant *character* levels.
If you multiclass and you get Class Token bonuses from 2 classes, then when you activate the Class Token the bonus last in rounds equal to the total character level. It's not one bonus from one class lasting different from another bonus from another class. The Class Token stacks all bonus even between different classes. |
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SeraphimDeX1DEV
Undisputed Ruler of the Universe

Age: 20
Joined: 14 Feb 2008
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Tue Mar 25, 2008 11:49 am |
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ooooo i misread. I thought they were talkinga bout the amount of bonus you get. My bad. |
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Morgoth
Resident Overclocker

Gender:  Age: 20
Joined: 21 Sep 2006
Location: Tasmania, Aus
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Tue Mar 25, 2008 6:06 pm |
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I have two dex tanks >< |
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hobbes3k
I ain't no Newbie

Gender:  Age: 21
Joined: 06 Oct 2006
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Tue Mar 25, 2008 7:32 pm |
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Take another look at the Class Token and Holy Sword changes; I made few modifications. |
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bhaal
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Gender:  Age: 78
Joined: 29 Dec 2005
Location: US
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Tue Mar 25, 2008 8:27 pm |
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Should shadow evade duration for SD be changed to class level * 2 (or 3) rounds?
The very epic RDD doesnt seem like much of a benefit...especially compared to DD or even ranger.
Should pally HS really get a huge boost like that? I would drop the dispel at least. Pally isn't really that much more vulnerable to dispell (a mere 2 extra spells), and the class goes well with so much already. Empowering it won't really make much more build variation.
I hope you are still working on upgrading the pet classes...pure druid/Palemaster.
-The PM, along with the rest of the pures, needs a spell damage reduction. |
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hobbes3k
I ain't no Newbie

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Tue Mar 25, 2008 9:06 pm |
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| bhaal wrote: | Should shadow evade duration for SD be changed to class level * 2 (or 3) rounds?
The very epic RDD doesnt seem like much of a benefit...especially compared to DD or even ranger.
Should pally HS really get a huge boost like that? I would drop the dispel at least. Pally isn't really that much more vulnerable to dispell (a mere 2 extra spells), and the class goes well with so much already. Empowering it won't really make much more build variation.
I hope you are still working on upgrading the pet classes...pure druid/Palemaster.
-The PM, along with the rest of the pures, needs a spell damage reduction. |
From my understand, the Seed's orginial HS was DC 15 and 100% to hit (?). Well I felt it was unfair the dispel DC did not take Pally levels into account, so people with 14 Pally level had just as a powerful HS as a 35 Pally. The new formula formula is fair imo, the most common pally level is 26, which will be DC 14%. And if you think about the new formula actually *nerfed* HS, since the % to hit is a lot lower now (unless you're a pure Pally of course). |
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bhaal
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Gender:  Age: 78
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Tue Mar 25, 2008 10:16 pm |
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When this 14% dispell hits, what does it remove? I know antiworld modified HS to be based on pally level, and it rips everyone's buffs apart even tho its not every hit. People call pallies the mage killers. |
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hobbes3k
I ain't no Newbie

Gender:  Age: 21
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Tue Mar 25, 2008 11:21 pm |
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| bhaal wrote: | | When this 14% dispell hits, what does it remove? I know antiworld modified HS to be based on pally level, and it rips everyone's buffs apart even tho its not every hit. People call pallies the mage killers. |
Sorry I meant 26 Pally level to be 14 caster level with 15% to dispel. (Sorry I confused you with DC 14%, which doesn't even make sense lol).
So that means on 15% of *successful* hits, it will cast a dispel on the target and you will get a roll like this (per buff):
1d20 + 14 vs buff DC. |
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