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LimaBeanMage
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 1:41 am Reply with quoteBack to top

What the subraces? Yes. But none of the ones that caused so much controversey.

Silly SR. Just make a pure monk if that was the whole issue Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 1:44 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I entend on redoing them, but no more monstrous races. (eg only normal subraces, no goblins/orcs/illithid/etc)

And the stats well be closer to pnp, no +10 bonuses with no penalties, eg closer to normal races, if the have a +2 bonus they should have a -2 penalty to a diff stat to balance it)

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 1:55 am Reply with quoteBack to top

ADCK wrote:
I entend on redoing them, but no more monstrous races. (eg only normal subraces, no goblins/orcs/illithid/etc)

And the stats well be closer to pnp, no +10 bonuses with no penalties, eg closer to normal races, if the have a +2 bonus they should have a -2 penalty to a diff stat to balance it)


lol, no!! Goblins and Orcs were the best ones. I enjoyed when people asked me why I was an Orc, and I explained to them what Orc Males and Orc Femals do sometimes... Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 2:05 am Reply with quoteBack to top

ADCK wrote:
I entend on redoing them, but no more monstrous races. (eg only normal subraces, no goblins/orcs/illithid/etc)

And the stats well be closer to pnp, no +10 bonuses with no penalties, eg closer to normal races, if the have a +2 bonus they should have a -2 penalty to a diff stat to balance it)


I don't think that will make subraces that appealing. The most popular will be the ones best fit into the PvP requirements of dex. Who actually makes a halfing for the bonus to hide or elves for the bonus to spot(or listen, forgot which). You would also want to think about the number of subraces; with so many that we had before yet only 4-5, if not less, were being used as they were obviously the superior.

I think that they big bonuses are needed to put a lot of diversity in PvP. Take lichs for example; they couldn't walk into sunlight without being blinded or taking damage and only took double damage from divine/positive. What would have balanced their immense bonuses would be to have ability decrease in sunlight to say -8 or have some of their immunites taken away. On top of which, they should have taken 7-8 more times divine/positive as it would not be as devistating with just doubling it.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 2:13 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Yup, i agree, we had something like 30 subraces, too much imo.

Lich and Vamps were a mistake, I should of never of added them Razz IMHO

Was thinking along the lines of subraces mentioned in the D&D Campaign Accesory: Races of Faerun.

(Excluding Ethnic Groups, and minor races)

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 2:17 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Was thinking of only doing these races:

Human:
Aasimar
Tiefling
Air-Genasi
Earth-Genasi
Fire-Genasi
Water-Genasi

Dwarf: (Shield Dwarf)
Arctic Dwarf
Duergar (Gray Dwarf)
Wild Dwarf
Gold Dwarf
Urdunnir (Orecutter Dwarf)

Elf: (Moon Elf)
Aquatic Elf (Sea Elf)
Avariel
Wild Elf (Green Elf)
Wood Elf
Drow (Dark Elf)
Sun Elf (Gold Elf)

Gnome: (Rock Gnome)
Svirfneblin (Deep Gnome)
Forest Gnome

Halfling: (Lightfoot Halfling)
Ghostwise Halfling
Strongheart Halfling

Half-Elf:
Half-Drow
Half-Aquatic Elf

Half-Orc:
Gray Orc
Orog (Deep Orc)
Mountain Orc

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 2:22 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Hmm. We would really have to monitor the balance on them in relations to PvP. Like the most used spells versus the weankess of some of them.

I still think that is too many unless each can really ONLY be used in conjuction with a certain class.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 2:50 am Reply with quoteBack to top

PrC would be fun....
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 2:52 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Yes it would, make the weak subraces look really really really cool and make the good subraces look like steaming piles of oatmeal..... let's see how players deal with psychological attacks! muha!
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 2:56 am Reply with quoteBack to top

LimaBeanMage wrote:
Yes it would, make the weak subraces look really really really cool and make the good subraces look like steaming piles of oatmeal..... let's see how players deal with psychological attacks! muha!


And, you can nerf them all the hell, then advertise that deX uses PrC!!! Good for the player base! lol
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 2:59 am Reply with quoteBack to top

not going to happen, dex well never use PRC.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 8:23 am Reply with quoteBack to top

im still waiting on being able to be some kind of misenthrope aka werewolf bear wolf or whatever

ya i know ya have shapeshifters but im on about the ability to infect other ppl etc if ya make it respond to dex day night system i would be a barrel of laffs imo make it more apealing for new ppl to try out dex of course the pvpers can carry on pvping ignoring the other aspects of dex like its boss's etc which are still fun for a break from mindless leveling and stuff

i also play paper Dnd ed3.5 so anything that adds a refreshing break will be explored Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 8:26 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Werewolf isn't a subrace at all, its a form you shift into, could possibly be added to druids/shifters shapes...

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 9:41 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I think its more fun when a subrace has a skin, that way you can also tell that it *is* a subrace and change your tactic accordingly.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 11:10 am Reply with quoteBack to top

hobbes3k wrote:
I think its more fun when a subrace has a skin, that way you can also tell that it *is* a subrace and change your tactic accordingly.


Or you'll notice it from the pvp feedback....either that or you'll think they're exploiting, lol lol


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